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Discerning the New Age with Doreen Virtue
Discover the captivating journey of Doreen Virtue, once a leading New Age author, who found her path to Christ and renounced the beliefs she once championed. Join us on Faithfullyliven: the Podcast, as we promise to unveil the subtle ways in which New Age practices have crept into our lives, and how they may pose a risk to our Christian faith. Learn from Doreen's personal story as she reveals the alluring nature of practices like positive affirmations, yoga, and the law of attraction, and how these can lead us away from biblical truths.
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Welcome to Faithfully Living, the Podcast, where we learn how to live for Christ in our daily lives.
Speaker 1:I'm Dwan, your host, and I would like to invite you on a journey with me to explore and learn how to be a faithful follower of Christ. Hi everyone, welcome to Faithfully Living, the Podcast, where we strive to encourage you to live for Christ faithfully by offering guidance on studying the Bible, how to understand the Bible better and how to remain faithful to historic Christianity in a contemporary society. What do positive and negative, energy abundance, positive affirmations, yoga, the law of attraction, vision boards, karma, manifesting, psychic readings, sage spirit guides, the universe all have in common? Well, they're all new Age practices. The New Age movement is a counterfeit philosophy that appeals to the feelings of individuals and leads them to think that they are God and can enhance their lives through their own person. So the New Age movement is slowly inching its way into our daily lives, and we often might not have realized it. The New Age seems to offer comfort, sometimes it gives accurate information and helpful advice, peace and sometimes even success. In reality, it's identical to what the serpent told Eve in the garden and Jesus in the wilderness.
Speaker 1:So today is a replay of the conversation that I've had with Doreen Virtue. We discuss being discerning of the various new age practices that we might see in our day-to-day life. All right, here is my conversation with Doreen. So before I get started, let me tell you a little bit about Doreen. Doreen Virtue was formerly the top-selling New Age author at the top New Age publisher, hay House. She toured the world giving New Age workshops and appearing on Oprah, cnn, the View and other shows.
Speaker 1:Doreen didn't think there was anything wrong with the New Age because she was raised in Christian science and she didn't understand the gospel, nor had she read the whole Bible. She had paranormal experiences throughout her life and she thought that she thought were from God and angels. She also thought that she was following Jesus, but it turned out to be the false Jesus. Was following Jesus, but it turned out to be the false Jesus. In January 2015, doreen heard a radio program about engine ears and false prophets by Alistair Beck that pierced her heart. Soon after, doreen and her husband began going to church. Through God's grace and their faith in Jesus Christ as their Lord and Savior, doreen and Michael left the New Age in 2017 and were born again Christians.
Speaker 1:Doreen holds a Master's in Biblical and Theological Studies from Russian Seminary, as well as a BA and MA degrees in Counseling psychology from Chapman University. She is the author of Deceive no More how Jesus Led Me Out of the New Age and Into His Word, published by Thomas Nelson. All right, here is my conversation with Doreen. Hi, doreen, welcome to the show Faithfully Living. I'm glad you're here.
Speaker 2:Thank you for having me on Dwan. It's great to be here.
Speaker 1:So I am doing a series on standing strong, knowing what the Bible says when culture tells us something different. And I know I want my audience to know what is the new age and how it's become a part of our lives without sometimes us knowing and knowing that you have been in the new age and kind of knowing what's all involved. So I wanted to kind of talk about some topics that influence our lives. But before we get into that, I want to know how you became a follower of Christ and your journey up until now.
Speaker 2:Well, thank you. It's only by God's grace and mercy, through my faith in Jesus as our Lord and Savior, that I am saved, today, that I'm a born-again, absolute, bible-believing Christian. It's a miracle. It's the last thing I expected. It was completely God's will and I thought I was a Christian. Is the thing about it? Because I was raised in a false gospel church that I didn't know was false gospel, called Christian Science, which is neither Christian nor scientific, and my mom told us we were Christians. We went to church twice a week. I was reading the King James because it was a King James version only as church, very legalistic, and I was reading the Bible since I was like six or seven and so I always thought I was Christian. But the thing was I didn't have the parameters of the gospel. I didn't know who God was, I didn't know who Jesus or the Holy Spirit were, and without that knowledge and that relationship with them it's too easy to go astray. So I did.
Speaker 2:I became a psychotherapist with a BA and an MA in psychology from Chapman University and then from there I just kind of went apostate. I think psychology just gives you a license to go into mysticism and experientialism and me-centered. It's very self-oriented and when you're focusing on yourself all the time, gosh, the devil has a playground, and he did with me. He masqueraded as an angel of light, which I thought I was getting messages from. I thought it was Archangel Michael and I was, unfortunately, a worker of inequity being used by the devil as a mouthpiece. When I thought I was helping people, I really thought that I was doing God's work, because there's angels in the Bible and people told me my work comforted them. It seemed to work, it seemed to be accurate, but it was pointing people away from Jesus and the Bible.
Speaker 2:What I was doing failed the test of the spirits that the Apostle John gives us in 1 John 4, whether we confess Jesus biblically or not, and I did not. I was a part of the New Age movement that saw Jesus as a mortal man who was a good teacher, a good role model, who was here to teach us about love and peace from a secular view of those words, and that he was now basically in heaven helping us. And it's so blasphemous. But I thought of him as a wish-granter, almost like a genie back then, which I've repented for, and that's what I see in the New Age is a term that means taking a little bit from different cultures and different religions and mixing them together, but it's all self-focused. It's all about glorifying yourself, where Christianity glorifies only God, and the New Age also is about putting yourself in the driver's seat for the will of what's to happen.
Speaker 2:New age teaches you that you can control your future, you can control your destiny, which is ludicrous because we know that only god is in control right, yeah, and so continue with your yeah well, I mean I, I the devil is a sugar daddy, and um, he quickly gave me promotions, I guess is the best way to say it, because I became one of the top selling New Age authors in the world over 70 books in 38 languages that I thought were reflecting God's angels, and I was horrified when I found out they weren't. But the point is, I thought I was doing good work and I wasn't. But at the same time, I was a student of world religions. I was a universalist who believed that all paths led to God in heaven, and so I would listen to Christian radio as well as Hindu and Buddhist and Shaman and Celtic all these different speakers. I thought they were all speaking the same thing with different terminology, and so I was listening to Alistair Begg, as I often did, in January 2015. And he started doing an exegetical sermon on 1 Timothy 2.4, which was in the end times. People will want their itching ears tickled by false teachers and Dwan. He described a false teacher as if he was describing me, and it was the first time in my life that I've had conviction. The Holy Spirit used that that sermon. It's called itching ears, if anyone wants to look it up. 2015 at truth for life.
Speaker 2:And I went home because I had heard this in the car and I said to my husband you know, there's something here. We need to check this out. We need to go to a real church, because we've been going to new age churches. We need to read the Bible. My husband agreed, so that took us on a two-year journey of trying to find a solid denomination. At that time, we lived in Hawaii, which has a lot of paganism, a great deal of New Age influence, and to try and find a solid church there was challenging. So we went to many different churches, but we were reading the Bible through there.
Speaker 2:And at the end of 2017, the Holy Spirit just convicted me to salvation when I read Deuteronomy 18, 10 through 12, which is God speaking through Moses to the Israelites as they're about to cross the Jordan River and go into Canaan, and God was telling them to not be like the Canaanites, the pagans, and to not sacrifice their daughters and sons. Of course, I was pro-life this whole time, so that didn't relate to me, but what did was that he said those who practice mediumship which I did those who practice fortune-telling, divination which I did those who interpret omens and signs which I did that said that the people who do that not just the practices, but the people that do these things are a detestable abomination to God. And, duann, you could have knocked me off my chair with a feather because I had no idea that I was a detestable abomination to God until that very moment when the Holy Spirit revealed that to me and I got on my knees right then and I said to God I did not know, I did not know. I probably did know, but I had a hard heart before then, and so I was just in tears and I was just so grieved because I had taught people all these heresies and blasphemies and I had all these books out there and I had employees and my family was employed in the new age and I was like, what do I do? How do I do rectify this? But I but I, at that point where I realized that I was not in control like I thought I was before, then I said I, I lord jesus, take over my life. I obviously don't know what I'm doing.
Speaker 2:And that's when I became born again and it was, oh, it's just a mirror, it's a miracle, because, um, I was a complete heretic and blasphemer and fornicator and adulterer, and every the 10 commandments you know, you name them. I broke them all and I was teaching others to do it too. Unfortunately, other people continue to sell some of my old products, even though I've so clearly asked them not to, and I can't afford, like a team of lawyers, to get them all down. But my products were not self-published or I would have pulled them off immediately. So since day one of being born again, I've been on social media just ple. I can smell the reek of new age deception, where a lot of cradle Christians can't see it and those of us who come out of deception we can just spot it. So there's new age deception going into the church like crazy, and so I've tried to be like a watchman on the wall and sound the alarm for those who have ears to hear.
Speaker 1:Yeah, so let's get into some of those new age practices that are coming to the church and just in our lives in general as people. So the first one would be manifesting visualization. Tell us a little about that.
Speaker 2:Yeah, so I call it the lie of attraction, not the law of attraction. And this again is where you're putting yourself in the driver's seat and it's designed to hook people who are desperate for money, basically because it says that if you will just visualize money, it'll come to you. I mean, it's complete word of faith, prosperity, gospel, but it hooks Christians who are in desperate times and who maybe it seems like their prayers. There's a delay and we really need to trust that the Lord knows our needs and will provide for our needs Maybe not our wants, probably not our wants, but our needs. And so if there's any time where you're given a formula that you can get God to bend to your will and speed up your prayers, that's witchcraft and that is an abomination that is completely condemned in the Bible.
Speaker 2:No matter how many professing nice-looking Christians tell you to do the law of attraction, they might give you case studies that this worked. Tell you to do the law of attraction and they might give you case studies that this worked. You know, a lot of things in the New Age do work, just like the sorcerers and Pharaoh's court and Exodus. It worked for a degree. They couldn't. They could mimic God's miracles to a degree, and so can demons. They can make you feel better, they can seem to lift your ego, they can seem to bring you money and such, but it's an illusion. It's a mirage that will disappear and it will hook you in and lead you away from the real, the real God, our triune, god, father, son and Holy spirit. It will lead you away from solid church and solid theology. It'll lead you away from the Bible. It is not worth any amount of money, any relationship, any job. It's nothing's worth. From the Bible. It is not worth any amount of money, any relationship, any job. It's nothing's worth.
Speaker 2:Following the law of attraction. I'm someone who used it. It teaches fake it till you make it. It teaches you know spend as if you have. And I did that and I'm still in debt for that because it'll just teach you to act like you're rich. And I did. I was making a lot of money in the new age, but I was spending more than I was making, like a rock star does, and it's just a trap. Don't fall into the secret. The law of attraction visualizing. There's no such thing as vision boards and Habakkuk 2.2, even though there's a lady on YouTube saying that that's absolute scripture twisting and I pray she rep, repents and there's nothing about being in charge yourself. Instead, we're exhorted to trust in the lord with all of our heart and lay not on our own understanding right.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I think sometimes you know we want to be in control, but god is in control and you know, he knows, he has foresight, he he's sovereign, he knows everything beforehand. So I think it's important that we learn to trust him and not try to put our own thing. We can control thing.
Speaker 2:Amen. Yeah, what really convicted me was the book of Job, the last few chapters, when God's talking to Job and in essence God says where were you when I made the heavens? Where were you when I made the heavens? Where were you when I made the ocean? And as I was reading that, I was like, oh yeah, I can't. I can't speak a word and create the stars like God did. Only God can do that. I needed to be humbled like that.
Speaker 1:Right, yeah, and we all do, reminded of that.
Speaker 2:You know from time to time, god's in control, all right, so next one that I didn't know would be yoga, oh, yeah, yeah, for a season, my husband and I were members of an Episcopalian church which was very liberal and they had a yoga studio on the church campus, and so I thought it was okay at that time, until I started digging into the roots, which do matter, of yoga. Yoga itself is a word from an ancient Eastern language called Sanskrit, and yoga means yoke, and it's talk about unequally yoked. When you're in yoga, you're being yoked to their Hindu creator, god Brahma, and and I get all kinds of pushback for this one, and I know you might too for me even saying this, because people will say but I go to holy yoga and we don't, we don't, yeah, we don't, we don't worship Hindu gods, we're stretching, and, and the thing is that stretching is a good idea. I mean, it is natural, it's helpful. I stretch every night before I go to bed, but yoga poses are very precise, and there's a series of yoga poses called sun salutation that even the so-called Christian yoga practices involve, and it's about standing up and opening your arms and saluting the sun, which is, of course. Romans 1 says we're not to worship the creation but the creator Right. We're told in the Bible to glorify God in everything we do, and Paul says twice to glorify God with our bodies. Now let me just say this this is this is kind of shocking truth.
Speaker 2:There's a pose in the sun salutation series called warrior, and there's three versions warrior one, two and three. In Sanskrit it's called Vairabhadrasana, and asana means pose, and it is the pose of Vairabhadras, who's a Hindu warrior, demon who was a murderer. And so when you're doing warrior one, two and three, you're acting out a Hindu murder scene with your body. That's supposed to glorify God. How could that glorify God when you're acting as if you're Virabhadras, who's a demon? It's impossible, and so I still get pushback from people. I'm not thinking of murder, I'm not thinking of Hindu gods. I'm listening to worship music and we're saying scriptures. We're doing this. Well, that's rebelliousness, you guys. That's absolute rebelliousness, and the Bible says that we are not to drink at the same table as demons, and that's what we're doing with yoga.
Speaker 2:There's ways to stretch that do not involve the sun salutation series, that do not involve taking your body and mimicking Hindu deities or animals, which almost every yoga pose is. I mean, think about shavasana, which is the end of a yoga practice where you're laying down. It's kind of like in kindergarten we took naps, and shavasana means corpse pose, dead person pose, and during that time the yoga instructor usually guides you through a meditation. And in a secular yoga class they have you to say Sanskrit such as Om, which is a heretical statement, that about the universe, or Namaste, which is even worse, which is saying that God within me recognizes and honors the God within you, small g God, and so it's polytheism, and so I would not step on a yoga mat, no matter what you paid me today. It's absolute blasphemy, it's not glorifying a God and it violates the first and second commandment. We shall have no other gods before me and no graven images. You're making your body a graven image if you are doing yoga poses.
Speaker 1:I didn't know all that.
Speaker 2:Wow, yeah, it's bad, and I've interviewed former. I have a video. If anyone wants it, they can write me on Instagram, I'll send it. I have a former so-called holy yoga teacher. She until the Holy Spirit convicted her that you can't mix Christianity with paganism. And so she had her kids, her little kids, doing yoga with her and they immediately started having bedwetting and nightmares and having trouble focusing on their schoolwork. And when she took them out of yoga, they went back to focusing again. And then I have another video about what yoga does to kids. It seems to make them peaceful for a season, but it also then leads to spiritual warfare. That's seen in your kids Again. Nightmares, really bad nightmares, bedwetting and a lack of focus. So do not let your kids get into yoga, even if you have to fight your school board, because a lot of schools have yoga in them and that's just absolutely wrong on every level yeah, I think you know, as christians we try to, you know, make, make things good, but you know, only god can turn bad situations into good situations.
Speaker 2:We can't no, I mean. People all the time are trying to argue that it's like when paul says that the meat that was consecrated in pagan temples was redeemed. This is not the same, you know. Pa also said if it causes a brother to stumble, I would not eat meat or drink the wine, and so this could cause someone to stumble. If a Christian is going to yoga and someone who's a baby Christian or an unsaved person sees you going to yoga and thinks it's okay, they could get into the pipeline of the false teachings very easily that way.
Speaker 2:The other thing to know is that you can't redeem a pagan practice. If I said here's my Ouija board, which everyone knows a Ouija board is satanic. I mean, even new agers won't touch it and I said but look, I pasted Bible verses on my Ouija board and look, I'm playing the Psalms to music while I'm using my Ouija board, so it's a Christian Ouija board. You guys would all laugh at me. But it's the same thing with trying to make the Enneagram to be Christian, yoga to be Christian. There's even witches who are calling themselves Christian witches or Christian Reiki ministers.
Speaker 2:You can't just put the word Christian in front of a pagan practice and automatically make it magically Christian. It doesn't work that way. There are two opposites. The Christianity, as we've been saying, glorifies God alone, where paganism glorifies self. You can see I get worked up about this because I was 59 years old when I was saved and you know, I've been there, done that through the new age, and a lot of 20 year olds come at me and they're, they're trying to teach me that, oh, it's okay, and I'm like you haven't been there, done that, like me, girl.
Speaker 1:Yeah, well, I think it's important for for us to know the contrast. You know, we try to make things work just to make it work, when we're not supposed to be doing that.
Speaker 2:So thank you.
Speaker 1:Yeah, all right, so next would be automatic writing channeling.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah, so automatic writing was how I was so prolific in the new age. I had 70 books, as I mentioned, and I this is just, I can barely say this, but at the time, because people said my work was comforting to them, they said it worked. I called myself God's secretary. I know I I was, I would, I would go into what's now called contemplative prayer and I would sit quietly. It's like Eastern meditation, not the biblical meditation that's in Joshua 1 and Psalm 1. This was where you focus on yourself, not God's law, and you focus on yourself and you listen for a message. And I would ask the Holy Spirit for messages. I didn't even know who this Holy Spirit really was. I had a New Age version of Holy Spirit. It was not biblical, so I'd ask for messages and then I would get messages again that would not pass 1 John 4, because they did not at all confess Jesus biblically, and a lot of the message I got would say that the Bible's corrupted by the Roman Catholic Church and Constantine, which is not true. It couldn't even be true historically on the timeline, and that Jesus was an ascended master who was a wish granter. I mean just horrible messages like that. But you know what A lot of people who get into new age are doing it to search for healing and validation of self.
Speaker 2:Many of the women that I met over my 22 years in the new age they were abuse survivors. They had been abused as children, abandoned. They'd had really bad marriages, drug addiction, all sorts of trauma in their life, and I think a lot of them were trying to help the trauma they felt through feel-good methods, told me they had left either Catholicism or Protestantism because they felt like it made them feel guilty and worse about themselves there. But I mean, that's the bad news of the gospel we have to know that we're wretched sinners. In order to know we need repentance and our Savior and Lord Jesus Christ. So it's interesting they would run to this kind of sugar-coated message that will make you feel good over here, We'll lift you up and it does for a little time, but, but it's followed by a crash and it never gives you the peace that Jesus only can offer.
Speaker 2:So one of the popular, you know, automatic writing book is jesus calling uh-huh yep yeah yeah, and we pray for sarah young to be convicted and to repent, because she's doing a lot of damage in the, in the body. Um, again, the episcopalian church. I was in the female priest, which that's rebellion. Um, she was highly recommending jesus calling. But even back then I had the discernment that this is not biblical. Sarah Young's Jesus Calling, on the surface, for those who do not know God's Word, seems to be. It could be a devotional, it's a substitute for Bible study. And I really see that more women get their theology from Jesus Calling than they do from God's Word, which is absolutely a tragedy. So Jesus Calling paints Jesus as an ego-stroking, almost like a boyfriend, almost romantic, that he's your coach, he's your champion, you can do it, you can do no wrong. And at the bottom of each page she has the scripture notation. So it might say Matthew 3, 18, or it might say John 4, 10, but it doesn't have the actual words of that scripture, just the notation. And people have told me that they feel safe because of that, because they think it's Christian. But if they would actually look up those verses on each page they would see it completely has nothing to do with her channeling.
Speaker 2:The other thing is Sarah Young. She changes what supposed Jesus says with almost every printing of Jesus Calling. If you're to compare the first printing with the latest printing, you'll see she alters his words. And how could that be? I mean, jesus is the same yesterday, today and forever. He doesn't change what he says.
Speaker 2:She also has Jesus saying things that contradict what he says in the Bible, and one of them is the ego stroking. Jesus never stroked anyone's ego. He did say that John the Baptist was the greatest among those who were born of a woman, but he never patted Peter on the back and goes oh, peter, you're so great and one day you're going to be in charge of this church. He said on this rock I will build the church. But he didn't say Peter, you're great. He didn't. He called him out all the time. So any any channeling like Jesus calling or the Enneagram that tries to elevate you is is absolutely a big red flag that we need to mark and avoid right, yeah, and then next would be positive affirmations yeah, again, this comes from um abuse survivors who are desperate to feel good about themselves.
Speaker 2:So I toured and I was published by louise hay, who's known as the Grand Dame, or the grandmother of positive affirmations, and yeah, she's passed since. So she would take, basically we would all take Genesis 1-2-6 that says that we were made in the image and likeness of God, and then just run with that and skip over the fall of Genesis 3. And we would say I'm perfect, whole and complete, that God doesn't make any junk. So therefore, since I'm made in God's image, I'm wonderful, like God, and we would affirm this and we would use that as evidence that the evangelical churches were wrong when they called us sinners.
Speaker 2:In the New Age you're taught that and this is the law of attraction you're taught that if you think or say a negative word or phrase that you will attract negativity, you'll attract really bad situations Again, putting you in charge instead of God. And so if someone says to you that you're a sinner, the New Ager is going to say that's negative, I'm not going to listen to you or I'll have something bad happen to me. If you say there's the devil or demons, again the New Agers will shut down on you and say you're being negative. And so the devil is basically Teflon-coated New Agers to the gospel, unfortunately, and it takes a supernatural work of the Holy Spirit to convict the heart of a new ager that, yeah, you're a sinner. And for me it was reading the Bible.
Speaker 2:For many people, like how Ray Comfort does evangelizing, it's listing the 10 commandments, and they're still for today, and saying have you ever lied? Have you ever stolen? Have you ever had lustful thoughts? You are. You're under God's wrath then. But see, in the new age we only focused on John saying God is love, and then we had our definition that love what meant? All inclusive. And so you know, didn't Jesus eat with the tax collectors and the prostitutes? He must have loved them unconditionally too. We didn't pay attention to Jesus saying collectors and the prostitutes he must have loved them unconditionally too. We didn't pay attention to Jesus saying go and sin no more. We thought that Jesus just said everything you do is fine as long as you stay positive, and we were just completely off the mark with the false gospel.
Speaker 1:Yeah, and then one that I didn't realize is psychic readings and then prophetic words.
Speaker 2:Yeah, they're the same thing. In fact, when I was first coming out of the New Age, I was signing up for a class to become a certified prophetess because I had been a psychic in the New Age and I thought, well, I'll just be a Christian prophetess. You know same thing, and I'm sure Bethel Church would have welcomed me and I probably would have been one of Bethel's stars. But praise the Lord for having me stay in the Word and seeing that the biblical prophets have nothing to do with the people called prophets today at all, who are giving you a word. I went through seminary for two years, two and a half years, and I got a master's in biblical and theological studies 56 units and I got highest honors not to brag, but it's just a test to God giving me a new heart and a biblical worldview. And so we had to study and write papers on each one of the minor and major prophets, and all of them were calling people to repentance. Every one of them were calling people back to God's covenant and also giving eschatological end times, warnings and curses and blessings.
Speaker 2:The so-called prophets of today are like psychics they don't tell people to repent. I've never heard that. They also the biblical prophets. In Deuteronomy, god says that someone who's speaking for him will be 100% accurate or they shall be stoned to death. And the prophets today? They excuse themselves for being not accurate. So, anyway, the prophets today are all ego strokers, like I was in the new age, telling people how they're going to get their soulmate or a job promotion and and their so-called life purpose, which is always a career, instead of what the bible says, that our life purpose is to glorify god yeah, it seems like a lot of these is focused on the self, you know, and not us being focused on glorifying God, because it's not supposed to be about us.
Speaker 1:We're supposed to be surrendering our lives to God and then, you know, glorifying him. He says love God and then love others. It didn't have the you know the self in there.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah, yeah, that's so true. And, of course, when we glorify self, we get into pridefulness, and we know that pride goes before a fall. So the law of attraction, by having us become prideful and covetous, actually sets us up for the so-called negativity that it says it's going to protect us from. And besides that, the New Age has a phobia of negativity and the phobia itself is negative, but nobody ever talks about that.
Speaker 1:Right, they want to stay on the positive.
Speaker 2:Yeah, but their positive is not reality and it's definitely not biblical worldview.
Speaker 1:Well, doreen, thank you for being on the show. You've enlightened me as far as some new age practices that I've heard about haven't participated in but heard about, so I know a little bit more about it. I'm grateful that you're on the show today.
Speaker 2:Thank you, Joanne.
Speaker 1:It's been great to meet you, sis it's important for us, as a christian, to be discerning our discernment comes from the holy spirit and the word of god.
Speaker 1:So studying and understanding god's word helps us to know god, and when we hear or see something that is false, the Holy Spirit can prompt us with the word of God that we know. So the Holy Spirit will help guide us to discern those truths that are the truths that are true and those things that are false. So I hope this conversation with Doreen Virtue was helpful to you and to help you think about some new age practice you may or may not have heard of, or you may or may not have known that they were new age practices, and I hope you would reconsider practicing these things, because it goes against the things God commands us to do that are in his word, the things God commands us to do that are in his word. So until next time, remember God is always good and he's always faithful. Thank you for listening to the podcast. Do me a favor by following the podcast and leaving a review to help spread the word. I look forward to hearing from you.
